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May 13, 2008
Is “Scam” losing its meaning?
Recently the word scam seems to have
become a common word on most PTC related
communities. This isn’t a good thing as
for a long while the PTC industry has
been drying up on new advertisers. Many
of the outside advertises are still
sceptical of the PTC advertising method
so they look to forums and blogs to find
out more which is where they are put off
by the scam spam.
According to the dictionary the word
scam means “a confidence game or
other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making
a quick profit; swindle.” This would
mean the fraudster would have to be
using a site for the soul purpose of
defrauding the member’s right from the
start. Because this has defiantly been
the case with many PTC sites in the past
it has now caused a paranoia effect
where some people jump on this word at
the slightest sign.
It has now come to a stage that if a
member’s payment goes a day over due
that member will then go to a popular
PTC community and insists that they were
“scammed”. Quite often it’s a cheater
who has been caught and just wants to
get a last word in but sometimes it is
someone simply jumping to conclusions
without being objective.
Examples
The most logical example for this
growing trend is members on the audit
wait at bux.to. It’s a fact that bux.to
is the largest and most popular PTC site
and therefore has the longest audit
waits. For a premium member the TOS
states 30 business days after request
till you are paid. For standard members
it is 60 business days.
With over 6million members last reported
it is evident that even these durations
are too short for the site to payout on
time and they are indeed not making
these dead lines. However this does not
mean it is a scam. The TOS also states
that they cannot be held responsible for
work stoppages which are commonly caused
by mass support tickets.
This is a nasty cycle because the people
who lose patience waiting file a support
ticket but then so does another 100,000
that day each requiring an examination
of their account. A PTC site is always
under pressure to answer their support
tickets so they cannot avoid even a low
priority ticket while they could be
doing a more important process such as
payment audits. Audits themselves are a
high priority and take a lot of time no
matter what you know about PHP. If you
have 1 million members asking for
payment there are numerous cheat checks
required for each.
People often say that they should just
employ more staff but after a certain
amount it does more harm than good. This
is because PTC sites are generally run
without a HQ so staff members rely on
emails to communicate with each other.
Although emailing can be effective it is
not an instant communication process.
When there are too many staff members
their emails become disorganized or
missed with all the other mail PTC sites
produce.
So in the case of bux.to people are
simply not investigating why their
payments are late and not distinguishing
the difference between a delay and a
scam. This was also the case with the
recent ending of the site Paid.vg which
had been struggling to gain a profit due
to poor sales. This caused the site to
fold with only outstanding purchases
refunded. The poor sales were due to
lack of time spent on the site by the
owner so eventually the site became a
failure.
Again people were running to the
communities in block capitals that
Paid.vg was a big scam when it fact it
was just a simply failure. This rushed
attitude has done some noticeable damage
to the industry in the past with the
abandonment of PayPal which was caused
by mass disputes with the same rushed
conclusions. Now PayPal will freeze a
PTC sites account even if 1 cheater
files a dispute.
What about the real scams?
The truth is that it is easy to tell
when a site is really going to scam
people by observing such signs as
unreachable administrators, hidden
background data, unrealistic proof of
earnings, no forum, poor site design,
eagerness to slander other PTC sites,
ads connected to known scam sites and
unrealistic prices. Another thing to
consider is whether a site has been
around for long enough or how well
networked they are with other
businesses.
With all the information people have on
the longest running PTC sites and how
many partners they have gained it would
be impossible for them to even get away
with scamming people. Scam sites are
usually around for a few weeks to gain a
quick profit because there are fewer
eyes on a small profit than a large one.
The only case of a long running scam in
the PT industry is AWsurvey’s which has
lasted long by paying and giving bonuses
to those who are good at promoting the
site and then not paying the people they
refer. This is why some people are
adamant that AWsurvey’s is legit because
they are unaware as to what they are
being used for. The effectiveness of
this system has been vastly reduced but
it still catches the odd new comer to
the industry.
What should be done?
Easy, good things come to those who wait
and a little more patience is all that
it would take for some of the major PTC
sites to operate better. Filing support
tickets all the time isn’t going to
speed up this process and neither is
calling a delay a scam. When you log
into a PTC site you want there to be as
many ads to click as possible but so
long as the word scam is being used in
such a trigger happy fashion you will be
lucky to find many on the newer sites.
The word “scam” is not your friend and
in your best interest to use it
appropriately
If you strongly feel you are being
scammed, put some thought into it first
and do some proper investigating before
you go public. Quite often people feed
off each others rumours and this causes
an unconstructive and misleading
approach to the problem.
Don’t expect to get your money sooner if
you file a dispute at the sites payment
processor as all they will likely do is
freeze the account stopping you and
everyone else from receiving the money.
Remember that not all PTC sites have
super servers and occasionally they
cause the site to go down for a brief
period. There have been many cases where
this has happened and just 1 hour later
a member is on forums calling it a scam
attempt only to find its back up another
hour later.
Because scam sites are not usually
around for very long it makes sense not
to invest too much on a site that is new
unless you know the owner’s history is
reputable. Some say this would make it
too hard for people to start new PTC
sites but at the end of the day if you
run your PTC site properly and promote
it right you cannot go wrong.
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